Please feel free to ask (and answer?) any questions you might have concerning summer reading. These questions may be about the content of the text, the format of novel notes, or understanding literary terms. Remember to identify who you are when you post so I know to whom I must respond ... and continue to check the website for updates.
Victoria Grix:
ReplyDeletefor the novel notes when it says author's nationality/key info would you like us to summerize the information about the author provided in the back of the book?
For the novel notes about the quotations, when we cite the author and page number using the MLA style, where should we include the page number?
ReplyDeletethe mla format i found only includes the author, title of book, city of publication, publisher, and the year it was published.
I am also having trouble citing the quotes for To Kill a Mockingbird.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know the right way to cite quotes using the MLA format ?
For the novel notes, under card one it says next to allusions, "I will assist you with these in September". Does that mean we should leave the allusions portion blank on our card and then fill them during class in September?
ReplyDeleteMarissa: If you do notice any allusions, please include them; however, when I evaluate the cards in September (omg, it's coming so quickly!) I will not take off if you hadn't filled them in before we reviewed them.
ReplyDeleteAlly and Tracey: cite by author's last name and page number in parentheses such as: "It is a sin to kill a mockingbird" (Lee 110).
Do not worry about a works cited page for this!
Victoria: key information is really the author's nationality and any noteworthy facts you find interesting. You do NOT need to do a biography! I'm not even THAT mean.
I'm so pleased that you guys are reaching out on the blog for answers and hope you are enjoying your summer!
Out of curiousity, if To Kill a Mockingbird took place in the year 2009, and Tom Robinson were accused of the same exact crime under the same circumstances, and everything went exactly the same way it does in the novel, could Tom still be shot for trying to escape prison? Basically, if something like that were to occur today, would it be legal for the prison guards to shoot Tom? Also, is that legal in the actual book when it happens, or do they just get away with it?
ReplyDeleteErin, that is a good observation. I am unsure if it was legal during the time period of To Kill a Mockingbird. It is not made a big deal out of because of the racism during the time period, no body really cared enough to take action or questioning towards it. Also, I feel that today an officer would be more hesitant as to shoot one for escaping. I'm sure now there are more precautions and things to do that come before shooting. However, in today's world of everyone sueing one another for every little thing, I feel if an officer did shoot some one and kill them, it would be a very big event and the press would make it a big thing.
ReplyDeleteAs a result, I'm sure an officer does have the authority to shoot one for escaping prison, but if the officer chose to do that, I'm sure the time leading up to the shooting would be analyzed to see if the choice was rational for the circumstances.
Also, for the themes on our novel notes. Are we simply just listing the themes, or should we provide explanations on how we apply them to the novel?
ReplyDeleteTracey:
ReplyDeleteSuch a good question! I'd love if other people would respond before I do and I'd love to use this as one of our in-class discussions too!
As for themes: themes should be expressed in a sentence, not just a word. So if you list the theme (or the life lesson from the book), you do not need to explain it on your novel notes.
PS: does anyone else hear strange music when they pull up this blog??!!!??
Oops...ERIN! I'm so sorry! I knew you were the person to first pose the question but had Tracey's reply on my mind when I posted. Thank you for coming up with such an intruiging question, and thank you, Tracey, for offering your insight!
ReplyDeleteThank you. And yes I do hear music when I am on the blog.
ReplyDeleteWhile reading And Then There Were None, I noticed that Agatha Christie used the diverse characters to convey multiple personalities of people in general. I was wondering, if this was her way of showing people's views about death. For example, I found it interesting how some characters ran out in the middle of the night searching for clues, while others sat serenely by the sea. This made me think, everyone has a different reaction when they know they are facing death. Some choose to accept it, while others felt that they could beat the game. As a result, which character do you think you most want to be like if you were in that situation? Would you have wanted to know you did everything you could for your survival? Or would you have rathered known you had enjoyed your final moments?
ReplyDeleteFor the first novel note card, where you are asked to list characters from the book and briefly describe them, for And Then There Were None, is the chart from the yellow packet substituting for this or should we do it on the card also?
ReplyDeleteIn the book To Kill A Mockingbird why does Mr.Radley put cement in the knot hole of the tree? Was the tree really sick?
ReplyDeleteAnd this is Taylor Hodges
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ReplyDeletewow, Ally! We were writing at the exact same moment! That's never happened to me before.
ReplyDeleteMs. Arney, thank you for clarifying how to use the MLA format.
ReplyDeleteTaylor, I believe that the whole Radley family is attempting to keep Arthur from the outside world, and by filling up the knot hole Nathan Radley was keeping his brother from forming a relationship with Scout and Jem.
I do not think the tree was really sick, and if it was I don't see how filling the knot hole with cement could prolong the life of the tree.
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ReplyDeleteThank you, Ms. Arney!
ReplyDeleteIn To Kill a Mockingbird, there is a reason that Scout's, Jem's, and Atticus' last name is Finch, right? Isn't a finch a type of bird?
Erin,
ReplyDeleteHarper Lee is the youngest of four children of Amasa Coleman Lee and Frances Finch Lee. So i guess she used her one of her parent's name.
-theresa
Does anyone think that Tom Robinson was not actually trying to escape the jail, and that the guards just killed him and used that as a coverup? I find it hard to believe that Tom was trying to escape when he knew they would shoot him for doing so. I think that kind of thing happened often back then.
ReplyDeleteJoanna, I don't know for sure, but I think that Tom Robinson feels that he is doomed. If he stays in jail, he could be stuck there for an extremely long time. Although Atticus thinks maybe they can appeal the case, it is tough to say whether they would win, even then. This is the 1930s, before the Civil Rights Movement (probably the first time the government payed SPECIFIC attention to granting equal rights to African Americans). If this case were to be appealed, its outcome could easily just be the same. Additionally, nobody could tell for sure how long it would take.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Tom Robinson realized this and decided to take a chance. He probably thinks something along these lines:
If I make a run for it now and escape, that's great, and my family and I can find some crazy way to escape the law completely. And if I get shot, I'll be out of my misery.
You're probably right about Tom Robinson because he was feeling very down after the trial. He was probably dissappointed in Atticus and angry. But If an African American were in the jail and had no plans to escape, I could see the guards, who were probably racist, just killing the prisoners. Remember in the book, the night Tom was held in the Maycomb jail? That mob could have easily gotten away with killing Tom right there. And if they came up with an excuse, people would believe their word over Atticus, a supporter of African Americans.
ReplyDeleteOut of curiousity, Ms. Arney, who did put the music on this blog?
ReplyDeleteAnyway, when we come back to school, other than the charts of the gods and goddesses, is there anything that we may be quizzed on without being notified? Also, when we write a quotation for our novel notes, how do we differentiate whether the quotation is the narration or if it is dialogue? Do we use the apostrophe?
I believe Erin is right in that Tom really does try to escape from jail; he at that point probably feels that he has nothing to lose and that his life is over anyway. If he actually does somehow win the appeal, people will still treat him as if he were guilty.
Erin,to answer your question from before, I think that if someone was escaping jail today, the guards would have better ways to slow them down with out killing them. Aren't there special guns that don't kill but shock or stun or something? But if not, then they might try to shoot them in a less fatal area. But if the person did end up dying, it would be legal. I'm sure there would be controversy over the issue though. Some people would not approve of it at all, even though its legal.
ReplyDeleteI think that even if the guards at the jail had a different way of subduing Tom Robinson, they still would have shot him because they probably felt that he did not deserve to live after attempting to escape because he is African American.
ReplyDeleteAlso, when you say that we should annotate Mythology, should we annotate To Kill a Mockingbird and And Then There Were None as well? Additionally, will we be quizzed And Then There Were None at all, and will we be quizzed on To Kill a Mockingbird before the unit exam?
I have the same question as Kelly... does the character chart in the yellow packet count as the characters on the first index card for And Then There Were None?
ReplyDeleteAnd does Anthony Marston have a job?
ReplyDeleteLots of questions...here are some answers:
ReplyDeleteJeremy: a)I have NO idea where this music came from; neither of the past two blog pages have ever had this....it's very SURVIVOR, don't you think?
b) The only "unannounced" quiz you will have that first week will be on the gods / goddesses chart. The ATTWN test will be the first full week back after a 1-day review of the novel. Mythology will be open book and will be about 2 weeks into the course, after we've reviewed it a little and there will be a separate unit exam after we complete the mythology unit. TKM will NOT be evaluated until you have reread the book and we have discussed it in class.
Annotating Mythology? I'm not sure where I required this....? You do NOT need to do novel notes for Mythology; it would be virtually impossible. The questions are there to guide you. If you complete them, they will be bonus points on your Mythology summer reading exam.
Kelly & "Tayhodge": DO NOT USE THE YELLOW PACKET AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR NOVEL NOTES! The characters need to be on the index card in order for me to store them for you and to grade them.
Anthony Marston does not have a job. Consider him an old-fashioned Paris Hilton.
Did I miss any?
Refering to the Mythology notes, what is a creation myth?
ReplyDeleteA creation myth is one that explains natural phenomena - the science of ancient Greece. Focus on myths in which one (or the main) of the resolutions is the origination of a new flower, plant, animal, etc. (the clearest one is the story of Demeter & Persephone explaining the changing seasons or Arachne; however, many love myths end in the creation of something too!) Does this help?
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ReplyDeletemiss arney,
ReplyDeleteaccording to the mythology notes, i am confused about how the world was formed(the two rebellions against the fathers). Can you please that up?
It says in the first paragraph on the first page in the yellow packet that it is in our best interests to highlight/ use post-its in the Mythology texts because we can use them during the exam.
ReplyDeleteAlso, should we annonate ATTWN and TKM even though the tests for them are closed book?
One more thing: we received three sheets consisting of vocabulary; one of them instructed us to make flashcards. What should we do with the other two sheets?
How does Anthony Marston afford his fast cars and affluent lifestyle without any sort of job or apparent inheritance?
Referring to the term "annotation", I was told last year that this meant taking notes inside the book or on post-its stuck on the book. When I asked if we should annotate all three books, I meant to ask if we should do the above, not novel notes.
ReplyDeleteAt the end of And Then There Were None, I don't understand how Wargrave kills himself. The description of it is very confusing.
ReplyDeleteOne of the Mythology guide questions says to know the lesser gods that pop up in myths. Do we need to be farmiliar with these gods for the quiz during the first week of school or is that quiz only on the gods featured on the chart in the summer reading packet?
ReplyDeleteAnd I was also wondering if Pyramus and Thisbe would fall into the catagory of love stories or star-crossed lovers? They end up dead but they are together,in the same urn. However they could also be considered star-crossed lovers because they die before they can be together while they are alive. But in either case i can not see how they respected or disrespected the gods to bring about their fate? For example in Pygmalion and Galatea, respect for the gods alows him to mortalize his statue and in Orpeus and Eurydice, Orpeus is given a second chance to save his love however he does not follow Hades' orders, therefore he loses her again.
ReplyDeleteCourtney,
ReplyDeletei would say that they are star-crossed lovers because they were designed to be together, however, they never were together beacause they both die and never saw each other.
Thanks Miss Arney for clearing up what a creation myth is. According to Courtney's question and Theresea's response, I think that specifically, the story of Pyramus and Thisbe can be considered a love story and the characters can be star-crossed lovers. It could be a love story because the two lovers tried to be together when they ran away from home and when Pyramus thought Thisbe had died, he killed himself to be with her. On the other hand, Pyramus and Thisbe spent most of their relationship talking through a crack in the wall and even when they both tried to meet, they still never saw each other. Hope I could help!
ReplyDeleteKelly Guerci
ReplyDeleteIn regard to the novel notes, on the first card should I describe only the main characters or should I also include some extra characters who are not in the novel for long but are large contributors.
I also have a question regarding the novel notes;
ReplyDeleteIf I am unable to fit all of the information on the front of the card, can I also use the back of the card ?
Sorry I've been away from the computer - my modem has been down.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to address these from most recent and then back...
Ally: Don't take the 3-card rule as literally. You can use the back of a card OR have a second "Card 1".
Kelly: You may include minor characters that have significance (i.e., Walter Cunningham or MIss Caroline)
Emily: You are correct! Star-crossed lover stories never end well but they CAN also be a creation myth in a way (a flower can emerge from the failed romance as an immortal testament to their love).
Courtney: the quiz is ONLY on the chart I have given you. Just make certain you know the ENTIRE chart. The lesser gods might appear on a test.
Theresa: I will be reviewing cosmogony (origin of the world and the war between father and son) when we return. I promise after I tell this story, you will NEVER forget it. I, however, will be blushing throughout.
Joanna: he did create a rather intricate suicide. Read it again carefully and if you still don't understand, we will discuss it in class before the test.
Jeremy: I am VERY impressed. The ATTWN test is open book (as is Myth); it would help to fully annotate. Given the extensive nature we will discuss, write about, and be tested on in regards to TKM and Myth, I fully encourage you to annotate. I'd love to see your system when we return to school.
thank-you. but should i just keep that question blank for now? Also, i do not understand what sacrifice that Agamemon made. i read it over and over and the wording in the book can be a little confusing. :(
ReplyDeleteCan anyone answer Theresa's question for her? I'd like to see how other people are doing with comprehending the tome before I give out answers :-)
ReplyDeleteTheresa,
ReplyDeleteAgamemnon sacrifices his older daugter, Iphigenia. The Greeks kill her on an alter as a sacrifice to Artemis so the winds will be good for travel.
okay, thank you courtney! :)
ReplyDeleteThanks for your answer on Pyramus and Thisbe too.
ReplyDeletehaha. no problem!
ReplyDeleteWould the love story, Daphene be considered a happy or a sad ending? Although, Apollo got what he wanted and turned her to a Laurel tree, she rejected love and did not want anything to do with it.
ReplyDeleteTheresa,
ReplyDeleteI am also wondering the same thing! The story Daphne can be considered a happy story from Apollo's point of view but a sad story from Daphne's point of view. And Miss Arney, I am reading the trojan war and the last bullet from the questions in the yellow packet says to know the major Greek and Trojan kings and worriors so should I take note of every man involved in the war?
Girls, you have a very sweet interpretation of the Daphne story! However, it isn't really meant to be a happy ending as Apollo wanted Daphne in, um....HUMAN form (the Greek gods were very... well...frisky!). It falls under the star-crossed / creation category.
ReplyDeleteEmily: you do NOT need to know every single warrior. Know Priam's family and the main Greeks.
okay, thank- you ms. arney!
ReplyDeleteMs. Arney I was wondering if the To Kill A Mockingbird test would be open book? I have already statred taking some notes in the book using post-it notes; should I take notes in a seperate notebook or leave them in the book? Also, do you have any guideline notes that I could use so that I do not take too much notes or miss some important facts? Or am i just obsessing too much over the book?
ReplyDeleteErika: we won't be taking a test on TKM until later in the fall -- and after instruction. HOWEVER, if you annotate, it will help you with the study guide, quizzes, and class discussions. Don't worry about missing anything -- I won't let you ;-)
ReplyDeleteThank you Miss Arney!
ReplyDeleteOn the Novel Notes where we put the year the novel was published what year should we use? The year of the books original publication or the year our copy of the book was published?
ReplyDeleteAlso for the genre of the book should we be specific such as Bildungsroman, or courtroom drama or would we say fiction or realistic fiiction?
ReplyDeleteUse the original publication date...and the genre should be fiction; historical fiction; Bildungsroman is excellent!; mystery; etc.
ReplyDeleteGood questions, Courtney.
So, my scholars, is anyone freaking out yet?
Thank you Miss Arney.
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ReplyDeleteI have two questions. First i just wanted to know are we supposed to make flashcards for the wordmasters and the Pre- AP vocabulary list, or just the Pre-AP Vocabulary List? My second question is, do the extra credit questions for mythology serve as our annotations for the novel or should i use postits to access during the test?
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Good questions, Tara. The flashcards can be made for each of those lists as they are words you will need to know now and throughout highschool and college.
ReplyDeleteAs for mythology, I would also do both. You will earn extra credit for answering the questions, but you will not have access to those notes during the test; the post its will serve you well for that
Is the mythology test open book? Also for the quiz is there anything else besides the Olympian gods that we should be familiar with?
ReplyDeleteLauren Finer
In To Kill A Mockingbird, at the end what did Aunt Alexandra mean on page 267 when she tells Atticus she is sorry she had a feeling about the attack and it was her fault. Before that on page 253 Scout thinks something is wrong with her before they leave. Does she have a sort of sixth sense or she just had an intuition something bad would happen?
ReplyDeleteLauren,
ReplyDeleteYou will be allowed to use the book during the exam and for the quiz you need to study the chart on the Greek Gods in the yellow summer reading packet. That is all I know about it though.
Thanks Danielle!
ReplyDelete-Lauren
In part four of mythology, I don't get what roles Sinon and Laocoon play.
ReplyDelete-Lauren Finer
I looked on your website and noticed the possible allusions that we can use for the two books. For And Then There Were None, I also noticed allusions to the real "Ten Little Indians" rhyme (Vera's remark about the last Indian boy getting married) and to the mark of Cain. For To Kill a Mockingbird, are we supposed to list all of those allusions that are specified on the link?
ReplyDeleteAlso, will we be quizzed on the Pre-AP Vocabulary List or the Word Masters List?
Sinon is the Greek who is left behind with the wooden horse; he has the role of convincing the Trojans to take the horse inside the city.
Laocoon is a priest who tells the Trojans to leave the horse; he is killed by snakes, which leads the Trojans to believe that the horse has to be taken inside the city.
I hope that cleared up your question, Lauren.
Thanks Jeremy
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Hi, I don't know if this was already answered since it's kind of hard to keep up with all of this, but I've been going back and typing up the extra credit responses, and in Part One's fourth bullet, it says to know the two rebellions against the fathers. I re-read the story because I didn't understand the "rebellion", but for some reason I just can't understand it, let alone find where Hamilton mentions it.
ReplyDeleteI know the sequence of how it goes Chaos > Night and Erebus > Love > Light and Day > Earth, and the story of Pandora, but, I just don't understand the "rebellion".
I don't know if I'm completely missing it and it's right there, or the rebellion is a synonym for something else?
PLEASE HELP!! Thanks!
PS: to add to that - please also clarify the "fathers". Are they Mother Earth and Father Heaven?
ReplyDeleteMarissa: Rebellion of sons against fathers would be Chronos against Uranus and Zeus against Chronos.
ReplyDeleteJeremy and Danielle: Thank you for responding to your peers so quickly!
Jeremy: there will NOT be a quiz on those words unless I warn you...and if there were to be one, it would not be in September! Also, the mark of Cain is definitely one of the allusions as is the reference to Caesar's wife (Gen Macarthur says this about his - ironically or at least in denial) and a VERY vague reference to Lizzie Borden.
Danielle: you are correct; Aunt A simply had a "bad feeling" or sixth sense as you put it; nothing other than to add to the feeling of foreboding (or foreshadowing).
Thank you Ms.Arney
ReplyDeleteExtra Credit Questions Part Two and Three:
ReplyDeletethe first bullet asks about the love stories, and the second bullet asks about star-crossed lovers.
Which of the two categories would each story fall into? Is it one or the other, or can they go either way?
Cupid and Psyche
Pyramus and Thisbe
Orpheus and Eurydice
Pygmalion and Galatea
Baucis and Philemon
Daphne
star-crossed lover stories are love stories...just ones that don't have a happy ending. The Pyg & Gal TECHNICALLY has a happy ending so it isn't really a s-c l story
ReplyDeleteoh okay, thanks!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Ms. Arney!
ReplyDeleteCan I use the "Ten Little Indians" allusion that I mentioned in my last post?
Also, when we write a quotation for our novel notes, how do we differentiate whether the quotation is the narration or if it is dialogue? Please tell me if this quote is hypothetically correct:
"Then, he said, 'I like English.'" (Rosen 1).
Also, what do we do with the To Kill a Mockingbird allusions? There are so many of them; do we put them all on our novel notes?
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Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteIn reference to your question about the apostrophes, I'm almost positive that's correct. The double ones ( " ) are used for a quotation, and then a single one ( ' ) are used for a quotation inside of it.
Hope that helps
Throughout reading The Trojan War, I annotated and payed close attention to all the details, because I know the Trojan War is of great significance. However, I had some difficulty understanding the plot of the Trojan War. I understand the cause, the Judgement of Paris, and the gods/goddesses/mortals involved, however I find it difficulty to understand the purpose of the war as well as the motives of the parties involved.
ReplyDeleteAs a result, could someone clarify the The Trojan War, or give an explanation as to what exactly went on throughout it.
thanks so much!
Question about Achilles....
ReplyDeleteI understand the fact that his mother does not want him to participate in the war. He follows his mother's orders and goes to hide, but Odysseus finds him and makes him be apart of the war. Later on, when we learn about Hector, it says that Achilles is a greater warrior than he, which contradicts the fact that his mother believes he would die.
Did Achilles wish to fight in the war (because he knows he is the greatest warrior) and was ultimately held back by his mother?
I have a question reguarding the MLA citation of the quotes. I was wondering if i use a quote that ends in an exclamation point would i still include the exclamation point AND the period after the parentheses, or just one. if so which one?
ReplyDeleteMiss Arney or any friend that can assist me in this question, on the novel notes guide it states allusions, does one need to explain the allusions they add on their novel notes. Secondly, Miss Arney on the materials list there is an underlined book called the Grammerr Workbook for SAT,ACT and More. Do I need to buy this or will it be supplied.- Thanks Billy
ReplyDeleteAnother question... all the allusions used as guides for To Kill A Mockingbird and And Then There Were None, can they also be put on our novel notes or can i just use allusions that Mrs. Pernick gave us throughout the year in eight grade
ReplyDeleteOn more question Miss Arney can we type out our mythology questions or would you prefer them written on looseleaf
ReplyDeleteOn our mythology question sheet part 1, it says review the story of Deucalion and Pyrrha, where is this. I cannot find it under the selections for mythology sheet please help
ReplyDeleteok nevermind found it at the "end of how the earth and mankind were created"
ReplyDeleteIn the novel notes do I need to explain the allusions? Should I write where they are found in the novels or when they are used?
ReplyDeleteWow...I didn't realize there were so many posts here. I'm so sorry, gang!
ReplyDeleteJeremy: I am soooo sorry that I forgot to answer your previous question. Do NOT worry about the hundreds of allusions in TKM - pick a few that illustrate the setting (e.g., "someone once told [Maycomb] that it had nothing to fear but fear itself") or symbolism / theme (e.g., THE GRAY GHOST).
To everyone who has PERCEPTIVELY realized that the Trojan War is important and has questions about it, I PROMISE to discuss this in class (i.e., motivations; contradictions in the story) before the test. If we don't get to it in the general lecture, just ASK and I will review it. I think it is just too lengthy to go into any great depth here. Marissa and Tracey: I am quite impressed with your questions.
Tara: the special punctuation like ? or ! go INSIDE the "" marks; the . goes outside.
Billy and Annette: You should BRIEFLY explain how / why the author uses the allusion - so you probably need to briefly explain what the allusion means. Also, Billy, the allusions may NOT be those that you were given in 8th grade; however, there may be one or two that appear from that list.
Billy: yes, you may type the answers to the questions...just make certain that you and ONLY you submit them ;-)
Did I miss anyone?
For the second novel note where we write a summary of the book should we write an overview like you would find on the back of a book or more of a synopsis of the major events in the story?
ReplyDeleteThanks Miss Arney!
ReplyDeleteDid anyone find some physical description for Dr. Armstrong? The only thing I could find was that he was tired from work.
Annette, I said he is a young doctor who is more skinny and frail. He looks alert and "hungry". I hope that helps.
ReplyDeleteCan the story of Cupid and Psyche be considered star crossed lovers because during the majority of the myth they are apart even though in the end they become together?
Danielle, I think that Cupid and Psyche would not be considered star-crossed lovers because their story has a happy ending. In an earlier post by Miss Arney, she said that Pygmalion and Galatea would not be star-crossed lovers because the story ended happily so I would think it would be the same with Cupid and Pysche.
ReplyDeleteCourtney: It should be more detailed than a basic blurb. Major events are good.
ReplyDeleteEmily: I personally agree with you...just be aware, gang, that many anthologies classify Cupid & Psyche as a star-crossed lover story (and it would be if it were to end BEFORE Psyche fulfills the tasks of Venus).
Did I get everybody's question so far?
OK, guys, one more question: is there anything that is worrying you before we meet on Wednesday? Ask now or forever hold.... ;-)
ReplyDeleteFor wednesday, should we bring the novel notes, And Then There Were None chart, and mythology extra credit questions to class that day? Or are they being collected a different day?
ReplyDeleteOh and also looking back on the extra credit questions for Mythology, for Parts Two and Three, the third bullet says-
ReplyDeleteThe story of Atalanta and Meleager should fall into the star-crossed lovers category. Her tale appears in Part 3. The second half ends happily, so please revisit the bullet above.
Just making sure, but is that saying that even though it technically isn't a star-crossed lovers story, we should include it anyways because some aspects fall under the star-crossed lovers category?
Does all the books need to have 3 note cards or is it just one for each?
ReplyDeleteTracey: I'm glad you asked. Period 9 will not be meeting on Wednesday b/c you have orientation with Mr Furdon. Period 4 will be too overwhelmed with what I am giving to you and reviewing, so YOU DO NOT NEED TO BRING ANYTHING TO CLASS OTHER THAN YOUR VERY VERY VERY STURDY 3-INCH BINDER!!!!!!! I will collect novel notes on Tuesday so that you can study for the ATTWN test on Tuesday.
ReplyDeleteWARNING to anyone who feels this means they can just do novel notes over the weekend: you have not seen the week's homework agenda. If you wait to do your novel notes over next weekend, you will need to give up sleep for 3 days. I promise.
Tracey: as for Atalanta. She's in a difficult spot b/c she has two different "love" stories. The story of Atalanta and Meleager is clearly a star-crossed lovers tale; the story with the golden apples ends happily, so that is not a s-c tale.
Arielle: yes. Each book needs 3 cards. I'm sorry; I thought that was clear in the directions.
Ok thank you!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Ms. Arney.
ReplyDeleteAdditionally, what do you mean when you refer to the Gray Ghost? I do not see it on the list of TKM allusions.
The Grey Ghost (I can't remember which spelling Lee uses just now) is mentioned in the first and last chapter of the book. It brings some of the themes and motifs full circle - take a look!!! Don't worry; we will be discussing it in class and you guys will receive your novel notes back to make any changes you would like at that time.
ReplyDeleteFor which of the following is it mandatory to make index cards for?
ReplyDeleteWord Masters: Descriptive Vocabulary
Word Masters: Basic Vocabulary
Pre-AP Vocabulary
Literary Terms Handbook
Sorry, I have another question.
ReplyDeleteFor the Judgement of Paris, it is said that it is the start of the Trojan War. However, in Athena's offer to Prince Paris, she says that she will make him lead the Trojans to victory against Greece.
How does Athena know there is going to be a war between the Trojans and the Greeks if The Judgement of Paris is the cause of the Trojan War?
Ah, Tracey; great question!! I don't think she is predicting the actual war to get Helen back. Instead, I believe she is offering Paris a chance to lead Troy to victory (and possible leadership) over parts of Greece.
ReplyDeleteMarissa: NONE are mandatory. They are simply suggested.
ReplyDeleteThank you Miss Arney.I would also like to know if it is ok if you write evreything including the note cards instead of typing.
ReplyDeleteOk thanks!
ReplyDeleteMs. Arney,
ReplyDeleteFor the MLA Handbook for Writing Research Papers, I understand we need to buy the Seventh Edition. However, I found my brother's old book and it is the sixth edition. I was wondering if I could use this, or if I should buy the seventh edition.
Thank you
Arielle: you do not need to type the novel notes.
ReplyDeleteMarissa: that is fine! just be aware that some of the page references I make will be slightly off.
Thank you!
ReplyDeleteFor the story of Sisyphus, I was wondering if you could clarify.
ReplyDeleteIs it that Sisyphus noticed Asopus's daughter being taken away by the eagle, but did not tell him. Therefore, he punished himself?
The wording is a little confusing so I was unsure of the reason for his punishment.
Tracey,
ReplyDeleteZeus' symbol is an eagle. When Sisyphus tells Zeus and Asopus that he had saw an eagle carry the maiden away, he had really accused Zeus of taking the maiden away. Zeus is angered by this, and strikes Sisyphus with his thunderbolt.
Marissa
Oh ok, now I understand. Thank you Marissa!
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ReplyDeleteSorry I did not mean to remove my other comment. I have two questions. My first one is for the extra credit questions for Mythology, are we going to hand them in the first week of school, later on in the year, or are we just supposed to keep them for ourselves? My second question is why were Cadmus's children cursed? I did not understand why Cadmus's children had misfortune while he did not.
ReplyDeleteDanielle, when Cadmus married Harmonia the gods graced their marrige and Aphrodite gave Harmonia a necklace. The necklace was made by Hephaestus and it was so wonderful that it brought disaster to the next generations. That is why Cadmus' bloodline was cursed, and thanks for Armstrong's description.
ReplyDeleteAnnette: Good job. There is also an issue with Cadmus killing one of Ares' favorite dragons...? (Yeah, suspend your disbelief on that one). And it more powerful when all of your descendents are punished rather than just you ;-)
ReplyDeleteAnd OMG I need to figure out how to turn off this music!!!!!
Miss Arney should we give you the extra credit questions tommorrow if we have you 9th period?
ReplyDeleteThank you Annette and Miss Arney!
ReplyDeleteI can't find any similarity between love stories
ReplyDeletelooks like this year is gunna be fun
ReplyDeleteQuick Question.
ReplyDeleteFor the Daily Reflection of Wednesday, what is considered a concrete detail? Would it be evidence that shows how 3rd person view is better or is it something else?
This is a question for all...
ReplyDeleteDo you agree or disagree with Dr. Stone's scale of evil?
Generally, I agree with Dr. Stone's Scale of Evil. Killing people who are "in the way" is definitely worse than killing for self defence. Murdering in order to torture someone is also terrible.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Annette.Dr. Stone's scale of evil shows the different types or motives for murder, and is acccurate in the arrangement of torture being the worst, and self-defense being in the beginning. Also, Dr. Stone's scale of evil does show the different reasonings for murder, and it shows how murdering for pure enjoyment or any psychiactric reason is terrible. However, murdering for self-defense is not as awful, because there is a purpose of protecting oneself. In the end though, murder is murder and someone is still loosing his or her life.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely. Murder for self-defense and murder for enjoyment are two different things of different magnitudes. However, they are both still murders, like Tracey said.
ReplyDeleteI partially agree with Dr. Stone's scale of evil, but there are some factors of it that I also disagree with. Overall, the scale is fairly accurate, but I don't exactly think that one can put a number to evil. Additionally, murder is not the only thing in this world that is evil. Thirdly, there are some motives for murder still left out. I don't see anything about money on the scale. Another reason someone might murder another person is if the other person finds out that the murderer is doing something illegal (printing conterfeit money, illegally growing marijuana, etc.) and the murderer wants to cover the evidence.
ReplyDeleteHow long do the daily reflections have to be?
ReplyDeleteJason,
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if this is correct but on the daily reflections sheet it says
thesis ts cd cm cm cd cm cm cd cm cm cs.
so that's exactly what i did. So i'm guessing about 12 sentences?
I was wondering if we get bonus points for every homework we bring in early, even sentences?
ReplyDelete-Lauren
Lauren,
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure about every homework, but I do know that you get extra credit for handing in sentences early.
thanks tracey!
ReplyDeleteIn addition to the sentences, you get extra credit for handing in the daily reflections before tuesday...
ReplyDeleteThanks for the feedback on the question!
ReplyDeleteIf we had in vocab cards early too, do we get extra credit for those?
Absolutely, Kelly!
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