Monday, November 16, 2009

GRAMMAR GRAMMAR GRAMMAR


Please use this forum to ask questions, seek help, or pose challenges for your classmates concerning the wonderful world of grammar.

70 comments:

  1. I am a little confused on the preposition hw we have to do tonight.

    If a sentence contains more than one preposition but they are linked together do we leave it as one giant phrase or make it two seperate phrases.

    ex: The geographic center of the United States is in Kansas

    answer 1: of the United States is in Kansas
    answer 2: of the United States; in Kansas

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  2. I am not 100% sure if I am right to have done this, but I put them as two seperate phrases, so for that question I put your answer 2.

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  3. I had the same question as Kevin, also for the direct object sheet should we specify the direct object along with diagramming the sentence?
    -Lauren

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  4. I did almost the same as Kevin and Erin except I used a comma instead of ;. For the Direct Objects homework I have a question on a sentence:
    ex. Who made this cake? or Who invented the steamboat?
    Can WHO be the subject of this sentence?

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  5. ok thanks Erin, and also I think who can be the subject, but I'm not really sure.

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  6. I did the same thing, Emily.

    I have a question on the Prepositions homework also:
    When it says that "a prepositional phrase is a group of words that begins with a preposition and ends with a noun or pronoun", does that include ALL of the words? For example, in #2, would the prepositional phrase be "for creating the beloved detective Sherlock Holmes"?

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  7. Kevin: I don't really understand your question...eliminate the prepositional phrases and you are left with the subject and verb. Each phrase is separate.

    For diagramming, just do the simple subject, verb, direct object

    Emily: yes. "Who" is a pronoun

    Shawna: I need the rest of the sentence to answer your question, but that one is a little more tricky b/c it has a gerund (creating) so yes, it would encompass the rest of the sentence

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  8. Regarding the grammer homework due tommorow, if the sentence is a fragment should we complete the sentence as well as saying it is a fragment?

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  9. As fas as I know Kelly, I think we are just supposed to state that it is a fragment.

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  10. Kelly: I'm sorry, sweetie - I answered your question on the random musings page. You only need to write "fragment" b/c there would be no active verb.

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  11. Are we supposed to do the second grammar page that does NOT say Thursday's hw? Or is that extra credit.

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  13. For number ten on the homework, would handed out be the entire verb or is out part of a prepositional phrase of "out the test booklets and pencils"? I know that sometimes verbs have other words like the example we had "make out".

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  14. I have a question regarding diagramming - when there is an adjective connected to a noun that is located on a "rocket ship", does that adjective go under the line of its noun?

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  15. Shawna, I think that the adjective goes under the adjective it describes if there are multiple nouns. So if it was Nice Jenny and Sam played nice would I think only go under Jenny. I hope that helps!

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  16. Danielle: "out" is an adverb

    Shawna: you can put the adjective under one of the nouns....or, if it could apply to both nouns, it can go under that straight line that leads into the wall separating the nouns and verbs

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  17. Thank you Miss Arney and I hope you are feeling better.!

    I also have another question about grammar for the homework, sorry!For number 9 would "all" be an object for what they had eaten or would that be part of the prepositional phrase to describe it?

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  18. I don't have those sentences in front of me so I can't answer that...."all" can be a pronoun or an adjective, but I need to see the sentence

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  19. Sorry I did not put sentence! The sentence is "Mike and Taylor had eaten all of the ice cream and cake." So in this case would if be a pronoun and of the ice cream and cake be the prepositional phrase?

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  20. Thank you for helping me figure it out Miss Arney!

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  21. For the grammar homework regarding intransitive and transitve verbs should we diagram the sentences because in class we receive a intransitive worksheet but didn't have to complete it because we didn't learn how to diagram yet.

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  22. If it is the sheet with 15 sentences, you do know how to diagram those (I taught you guys that 2 weeks ago). Just consult that yellow packet (ch 13? something like that) for help with direct objects and prep phrases if you need to...or your notes

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  23. For the grammar homework, should we state if the sentence is transitive or intransitive?

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  24. I had the same question, but I would just in case.

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  25. Emily: It's not necessary. If you diagram a direct object, it's obviously transitive.

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  26. For the grammer homework tonite should we try and start the indirect objects sheet now that we have some backround?

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  27. Kelly, Miss Arney says the indirect objects sheet is going to be due over the break, so you have time to do it and fix it since we went over indirect objects today.

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  28. Can there be more then one subject complement, other then it being in a group?

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  29. Miss. Arney, this is of topic but are your extra helps for anything were having trouble with?

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  30. DON'T DO EXERCISE 11 - WE DIDN'T COVER SUBJECT COMPLEMENTS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!! Just take notes...do NOT do the activity yet, ok?
    Your homework is the Oedipus reading & ex 13

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  31. Lauren: It's not off topic. Extra help is for whatever you need, although if a large group shows up for help with "indirect objects" then that is what I'll focus on. I will be there tomorrow after school for grammar help. Next week will be devoted to Oedipus.

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  32. Haha, okay Miss. Arney, I din't do it! Also thank you, I wil try to come tommorow.

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  33. For Journal 1 for Oedipus can we use a picture from the internet if we are doing a facebook profile for him? I'm not the best artist.

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  34. Taylor: this question probably best fits the random musings page, but the answer is, yes. You may use clip art or a web pix.

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  35. Miss. Arney, now that I can do exercise 11, can there be more then one subject complement?

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  36. For the exercise eleven homework, on number six would "one" be the predicate nominative because there is also "highly technical" before it? The sentence is "Andrea's report on digital recording is a highly technical one."

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  37. I pretty sure there can be more than one subject complement but I am not sure. And for number six i just put "one" as the predicate nominative.

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  38. Ok thank you Jason!And I agree with you about the more than one subject complement because the sentence could be "She is smart and pretty". So both smart and pretty would be the predicate adjectives I think.

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  40. Yes, there can be more than one subject complement (just think rocket ships).
    and Danielle: GOOD for noticing that ONE is the PN (the other words are simple unassuming adjectives)

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  41. Thanks Miss Arney, but I am also confused, can there be one that isn't compound, like one that has one predicate nominative and one predicate adjective?

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  42. Thank you Miss Arney!

    Lauren, I think that can be possible such as if the sentence is Lauren is a girl and nice. The girl part is the nominative and the nice part is the adjective. I hope that helps a little to explain!

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  43. Lauren: Danielle is correct.
    If the sentence is: Lauren is a girl and nice, there are both a PN and PA in the sentence.
    IF the sentence was: Lauren is a nice girl, there is only a PN (nice is simply an adj that describes girl).

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  44. Ok, Thanks Miss Arney and Danielle!

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  46. Shawna: I have the directions in the top right hand corner of the worksheet. Diagram the main line: S/LV/PA or PN

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  47. Miss Arney, is there a grammer challenge for this week bacause it says there is one due tomorrow on the agenda?

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  48. Annette,
    I looked on our website and I couldn't find one for this week so I do not think that there is a grammar challenge this week contrary to the fact that it is written on this week's agenda.

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  49. I think Miss Arney said that she was having trouble putting it up, so there is no grammar challenge this week.

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  50. Miss Arney, do you think that you can put the grammar worksheet up that was this weekends homework? I do not recall getting one after the test.

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  51. Theresa: You were supposed to take it off the desk when you finished the exam on Friday.
    Unfortunately I don't have a copy at home with me to put up on the web - do you have a classmate that lives near you to borrow it?

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  52. Diagram S-V-PN (or PA)

    My brother should be the winner.
    My brother should be excited.
    My brother should be sleeping.
    The dog was a spaniel.
    The dog was old.
    The dog was barking.
    Cathy is an outstanding student.
    I am an American citizen.
    Those boys are star basketball players.
    Those boys are practicing.
    Was your dad an army officer?
    Was Dawn really trying?
    The boys were cooperating.
    Our team had been winning.
    Our team had been the winners.
    Sean should have been studying.
    Was the man being impatient?
    The man was being questioned.
    Have she and he been good assistants?
    Will your dad be late?
    He is coming now.
    Those carpenters are very capable.
    The cat was being a pest.
    The cat was being clever.
    The team and the students had been discouraged.

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  53. I don't understand what PN (or PA)mean!

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  54. Joanna,
    PN and PA mean Predicate Nominative and Predicate Adjective. You diagram them with he slanted line after the verb.

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  55. For the first sentence in the grammar challenge (A few people walked down the gangplank.), should "A" and "few" both modify "people", should "few" modify "people" and "A" modify "few", or should "A few" (idiomatic expression) modify "people"?

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  56. Miss. Arney the Grammar Challenge, isn't coming up on my computer, can someone send me the link?

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  57. Jeremy: Never mind; I'm going to simply it. I changed the sentence to "Few people..."

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  58. Lauren, this is the link
    http://www.prhs.k12.ny.us/fac/arneyd/English%209Honors/GrammarChallenge2009-2010.htm

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  59. Thanks, Jimin, but the link actually just started to work!

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  60. For number 3 on the Holiday Grammar Challenge (The horse knows the way through the white and drifted snow.), is "drifted" a participle?

    Also, I'm not sure if you can answer this one, but for number 1 (Over the river and through the woods to Grandmother's house we go.), does "to Grandmother's house" modify "go" or "Over the river and through the woods"?

    For number 5, did you mean Dr. Spock?

    Finally, when Miss Iorio posted "Tally ends", did she mean that this was her last post, or does it mean that this thread is closed? In the case that it is, I will post this on the Random Musings Thread.

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